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PostSubject: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:34 pm

1. Our teacher was very vexed______us because we were late for school.
2. After haggling______the price she bought the kurta.

3. The fisherman_______(catch) a catfish.
4. Prime minister_______(promise) to visit the hospital tomorrow.
5. My mother_______(cook) food all morning.
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:32 pm

am not good at grammer..esp prep and tenses...

1. Our teacher was very vexed_at_us because we were late for school.
2. After haggling_over_the price she bought the kurta.

3. The fisherman_caught_(catch) a catfish.
4. Prime minister_had promised_(promise) to visit the hospital tomorrow.
5. My mother___has been cooking__(cook) food all morning.
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:48 pm

1. Our teacher was very vexed_with_us because we were late for school.

The rest is correct.
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:50 pm

ohk...thank you...!

and plz the other one too...!
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:00 pm

aarthi and ganu thnxs for the answers....but the first answer is 'at'...i wrote 'with' in my exam n got it wrong....for similar reasons, the third answer is 'had caught'....so how do we prevent ourselves from making such trivial mistakes which might cost us our 1 point in english???
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:05 pm

I am very sure that it is "vexed with". You can confirm through a dictionary.
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:07 pm

yea...!! the same...!! i also hover close to the correct answer but make little mistakes like i've made here....!!

What we need to do is to understand the concepts..!!if we find out where past perfect should be used, where simple past should be used, we can form ourselves a set of guidelines for these elusive questions...!!

so..the task at hand is :
FIND THE CONCEPTS...! Exclamation and hurry...!! scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:09 pm

yeah...i'll hunt for some good points and post them here asap Smile...plz do the same....we have a common enemy Razz Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:12 pm

and if anyone comes across some good grammar questions, please post them here...
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:13 pm

I'm sorry since i can't multitask I can't help you in this regard. I have to type the notes for "Journey of the Magi" as promised. So you guys carry on with grammar.
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:15 pm

Don't u think it should be vexed 'by' us..?
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:18 pm

no...i don't think it can "by"...

its either "at" or "with"...anyway it cannot be by...
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:20 pm

Vexed means annoyed right? Teacher was annoyed by us.. sounds ri8..!
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:21 pm

hmm....no...you cannot be 'vexed by somebody' but only 'vexed with/at somebody'.....i think it is 'at'....our teacher told us that though it might seem to be right, the board doesn't accept...that's the headache!! Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:23 pm

first of all..i dont think u can check the answer by replacing a specific word with its synonym Geethu...

the answer is corect...if we're not directly dealing with the object..

for eg:
the teacher was annoyed by our behaviour.

reply reply reply...!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:25 pm

but here we are dealing with the object...ie the collective noun "us"...

you can only be annoyed at somebody...!! collective noun is considered as a singular noun..rite..?? so i THINK the correct answer is "At"
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:27 pm

Geethu is very much correct.


The Bt cotton debate in particular and the GM controversy in general
have been
vexed by claims
and counter-claims.


follow the link:
http://www.yourdictionary.com/examples/vex
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:35 pm

yeah the sentence is in passive voice..
We vexed the teacher.
The teacher was vexed by us.

Doesn't it make sense????
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:10 am

not sure about that 'vexed' one....
Prime minister_______(promise) to visit the hospital tomorrow.
but the answer to the above should be 'has promised' and not 'had promised' ......
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:12 am

vexed 'by' sounds correct......
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:16 am

Yeah it shud b 'has promised' because the key word here is tomorrow.. event hasn't happened.
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:10 am

the question is itself not clear...

it could be had promised also.... what if he had promised the day before the statement was made...
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:13 am

"Promised" seems better option then.. Wat say?
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:27 am

TENSE Past Perfect
FORMS:
I'd (had) already eaten before they came.
She hadn't (had not) been to Rome before that trip.
Had you ever seen such a crazy lady before that?

USES:
To express an action that happens before another action in the past.

the "promising" thingie happened in the past...but the other thingie is only going to happen{going to hospital}


TENSE Present Perfect
FORMS:
I've (have) seen Mick three times this week.
She hasn't (has not) been to New York.
How long have you worked at Smith's?

USES:
1)To express an action that was begun in the past and continues into the present. 2) To express an action that happened in the UNspecified past. 3) To express a recent action that has a present effect.

here....the thingie is only gonna happen in the future so...usage of presnt perfct is correct..
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PostSubject: Re: Grammar Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:29 am

PM promised to visit the hospital tomorrow.

This will go with the rules an dno confusion also..! yes he promised in the past and is goin to visit in the future..! Can't we write this?
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