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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:09 pm

Ravi exclaimed, "How he had to suffer with misfortunes!"

I'm sorry i dindnt notice that there was another page! Razz
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:13 pm

oo...! thats it...??!! darn man...! we are klutz here abhi...!!! Sad
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:14 pm

wait wait...!! if u've used "exclaimed" then whats the need of an exclamation mark there..??!!
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:14 pm

but...are you sure that the answer can also be in direct speech??
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:16 pm

can't we just say...<<im modifying aarthi's answer>>:

Ravi said,"How he had to suffer with misfortunes!".
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:24 pm

Usually they mention "without changing the meaning of the sentence". So as long as the meaning is same it can be direct or indirect (not very sure of this though). And you can say exclaimed. We actually say "Ravi exclaimed" because he is exclaiming. It it was an assertive sentence why would we say "Ravi exclaimed" at all?
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:30 pm

yea aarthi...its understod that we shouldnt change the meaning of the sentence...

they might not mention it...!!
its not an assertive sentence...its an exclamatory sentence aarthi..

ur answer to me appears corect...except the bug in the exclamatory sign...
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:33 pm

You did not understand what I'm trying to say. Since Ravi is exclaiming in that particular sentence we say "Ravi exclaimed". But if Ravi was asking a question wouldn't you say "Ravi asked"? Or if it was an assertive sentence wouldn't you say "Ravi said"? So we can say "Ravi exclaimed".
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:41 pm

i can say now that you are the one who did not understand me..

what i said was...if we are using the "Ravi exclaimed" phrase..then..why should we use the exclamation mark at the end of it..???
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:47 pm

lol...we don't have to use it....
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:52 pm

Darn man...!! we are wasting a lot of tym on a fricking simple question...!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:19 pm

yeah i kno...but it costs one mark!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:24 pm

You can however not get full marks in grammar! Sad
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:26 pm

what???? i can!!!! i have!!!
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:29 pm

No I mean 100 on 100!
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:31 pm

oooh...yeah...now that's hard to get in language!! Sad
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:37 pm

you'd be creating history if u can do that....!!!! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:39 pm

Haha!! I wanna create history!!
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:41 pm

yup...!! a typical human being u are Aarthi...!! always trying to score one better...!!

anyways all the best..!

peace..!cheers
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:44 pm

Thanks man! Same to you!
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:49 pm

hey aarthi and abhishek..!!

wat abt the rules we all agreed to look into...!! i got only something negligible..!!!

plz share wat u get...!
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:56 pm

Chk this out
http://www.grammarbook.com/grammar/effWrite.asp
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:04 pm

HERE ARE A FEW...hope they are helpful!!

If you don't hurry up now, you will be late for school.---- if+simple present,future

Use since when a starting point is given(eg: 1996, yesterday) and use for when a period of time is given(eg: 3 years, one week)

I am writing a test at the moment---'at the moment' indicates that you have to use present progressive. 'I' is used with 'am'(he/she/it are used with 'is')

I have been learning English for five years now---use the present perfect progressive when you talk about a period of time.

Last week I saw Susan in a shop--last week indicates that you have to use simple past.
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:08 pm

TENSE Simple Past
FORMS:
She went to Paris last week.
They didn't (did not) drive to work.
Where did she get that hat?

USES:
Actions happening at a defined moment in the past.

TENSE Simple Future
FORMS:
I'll (will) meet you at the airport tomorrow.
He won't (will not) be able to come.
Will they visit us soon?

USES:
Decisions made at the moment about the future, future predictions, future promises

TENSE Present Continuous
FORMS:
He's (is) working at the moment.
They aren't (are not) coming this evening.
What are you doing?

USES:
Actions happening at the present moment. Near future intention and scheduling.

TENSE Past Continuous
FORMS:
I was watching TV when you called.
He wasn't (was not) working when she arrived.
What were you doing when I called?

USES:
Interrupted past action, action happening at a specific moment in time in the past.

TENSE Future Continuous
FORMS:
I'll (will) be cooking dinner when you arrive.
They won't (will not) be living in Paris this time next year.
What will you be doing next week at this time?

USES:
Future action at a specific moment in the future.

TENSE Future with Going to
FORMS:
He's (is) going to fly to Boston next week.
They're (are) not going to invite the Browns.
Where are you going to stay?

USES:
Future intent or planned action.

TENSE Present Perfect
FORMS:
I've (have) seen Mick three times this week.
She hasn't (has not) been to New York.
How long have you worked at Smith's?

USES:
1)To express an action that was begun in the past and continues into the present. 2) To express an action that happened in the UNspecified past. 3) To express a recent action that has a present effect.

TENSE Past Perfect
FORMS:
I'd (had) already eaten before they came.
She hadn't (had not) been to Rome before that trip.
Had you ever seen such a crazy lady before that?

USES:
To express an action that happens before another action in the past.

TENSE Future Perfect
FORMS:
We'll (will) have lived here for twenty years by 2005.
She won't (will not) have finished her homework by the time we arrive.
How long will you have lived in France by the end of next year?

USES:
To express what will have happened or how long something will have happened up to a certain point in the future.

TENSE Present Perfect Continuous
FORMS:
She's (has) been waiting for over three hours.
They haven't (have not) been studying for long.
How long have you been working on that problem?

USES:
To express the duration of a continuous activity begun in the past and continuing into the present.

TENSE Past Perfect Continuous
FORMS:
She'd (had) been waiting for three hours when he finally arrived.
I hadn't (had not) been sleeping for long when I heard the doorbell ring.
How long had you been playing tennis when she arrived?

USES:
To express the duration of a continuous activity begun before another activity in the past.

TENSE Future Perfect Continuous
FORMS:
He'll (will) have been sleeping for a few hours by the time we arrive.
She won't (will not) have been working for long by 5 o'clock.
How long will you have been driving by 6 o'clock?

USES:
To express the duration of an activity up to a point of time in the future.
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PostSubject: Re: E language Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:15 pm

thanks guys...!!

peace..!
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